Flash Seo

[Derek04]

Hi every one

I know that Flash is the worst thing i can do for SEO.

I told my client that but i still want to do the most i can to get him in the Search engens

Any ideas what i can do

[Wit]

You can always try to "googlebomb" him.

But if they are using <embed>, there is always the <noembed> element to spam... erm use in a subtle way for "alternative and spiderable content".

[fire_lady]

link building might be the right key your looking for.
improving the number of your inbound link might do the trick. :)

[palconit]

yeah one way link building is the way

[marmaven]

Our client site (automotive OEM) is mostly flash. We are testing using the <div> text here </div> element to put text content that is identical/similar to what is shown in the flash. Not sure though if this is considered "hidden" text or even if it's a legally acceptable technique. Is it white hat or black hat? We have optimized the meta tags and we do have text global nav links.

One test did show that content within the DIV tags is seen by Google. But before I use the technique across the site, any thoughts?

[www.wintechmedia.com]

Hi

At present the Hidden divs are considered as SPAM. Please check the following thread

http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Problems/browse_thread/thread/f7756f8b1be9b822/2a4d9a3eb3502e2b#2a4d9a3eb3502e2b

Cheers

[marmaven]

After talking to some of our developers, I wanted to clarify exactly how we tested use of the <div> element. It is my understanding that traditionally when a <div> element is used to insert text behind a flash movie, the CSS file defines the <div> as "hidden." This is not how we tested it.

Basically, our client site is a hybrid html page with some flash content. A <div> is created on the html page to designate where the flash movie is to appear. Within the <div>sss</div> we placed text directly on the html page, which is identical to the text appearing in the flash movie. The CSS does NOT show the <div> as hidden. Rather, a .js file is used to get the flash movie, placing it within the <div>, thus overwriting the text.

Because a search engine crawler always has access to the text -- since its resides within the html -- it sees it the same way a user would had they turned Flash off when viewing the page. Instead of seeing the flash movie, the text is visible.

Given this scenario, does anyone think that search engines will penalize this methodology. Your thoughts are welcome.

Marmaven

[markov]

I think its better to avoid them. It could not ne SE userfriendly.

[WebGeek182]

You can best optimize a Flash site if done from the beginning. It is a problem if there is only one page, as it doesn't look too good to search engines that it's only a one-page site. There is some truth that having more pages helps (to an extent), as long as they are quality pages. For one, there's more pages for others to link to. To have a well optimized Flash site, you need to have unique URL's and not have all the content load on one page. You may need to think of some ways to modify the current flash to load in separate pages. Normally I recommend that Flash sites are created using a mix of Flash elements and html. That way there is still some readable content.

Inbound links are the most important element in SEO these days. You need to build up some good linkage from relevant high-quality sites. That is going to be key for a Flash-only site, as content optimization will be almost impossible without building either a mirror in html or at the least some new pages.