A major seo headache

[dazzlindonna]

Ok, somebody wants their site seo'd. Here are the stumbling blocks.

1. They completely changed the site, so that now the 30,000+ pages that were indexed now show as 404's.

2. Their new site is in frames.

3. The frame with the content is located on a different domain.

4. The frame with the content is on a secure server (https://), but as far as I know, there are no cookies, session id's or password protection involved.

If the content frame were on the same domain, I wouldn't be quite as worried, but with it being on a different domain, I have a feeling they are screwed. wdyt? Frames can be dealt with when necessary...404's can be dealt with...but content on a different domain? I've never dealt with that one before.

[gabs]

Are you seeing https indexed.. never been indexed for me .. ?

Frames ooo .. yuck ..

I've seen a few blog using other people content in frame and looks pretty nasty and the seo side.. well ... ummm..

Never played with external frame content but I can only assume is would help promote the external site ?

I'm seeing good PR in my framed content.. The frames are ranking well too.. Must add some code them if anyone enters that way ops.. {off to update the site}

[rustybrick]

You can always scrape the content in the frames and reproduce that content on the client's domain name, under static pages and not framed pages.

Of course, then you have to watch out if the page's structure changes. But that doesn't happen all that often with these content providers...

[dazzlindonna]

but I can only assume is would help promote the external site

that's what i was thinking too.

[dazzlindonna]

That's a great idea, Barry. Since it's a shopping cart kind of setup, with all the info on the cart's hosted server, maybe I should set up an "info center" about the products, scraping the content from the cart server, but not having those pages be actual "buy" pages. Might run into dup content problems, but I can probably work around that.

This is an old coding client of mine. Sure wish he'd talked to me first about seo before he made the decision to go this route. Of course, without knowing anything about seo, I guess he didn't even think to ask. Ah well, it will be interesting to see how much magic I can work out of this. :)

If anyone else has any ideas, bring 'em on!

[rustybrick]

That should work well, you can always tell Google not to follow the "buy" directory and then link from your pages to the buy now area.

[dazzlindonna]

That sounds like a good plan.

[OrganicSEO]

That should work well, you can always tell Google not to follow the "buy" directory and then link from your pages to the buy now area.I have a question; :eek: if i have 20 links (all internal) in a page and use nofollow on 5 links, will it hurt?

[rustybrick]

Use the robots.txt file and exclude that directory.

[123seotools]

Move all https site content to non-https and 301 redirect from https to non-https for all pages ?

(Hope I understood it right)

[dazzlindonna]

I doubt that will be possible, 123. Those pages are being served by a shopping cart provider, so I think we'll be limited as to what we can do with them.

[gabs]

Sounds best to noindex the cart especially as you have limited control over it..

3rd party stuff umm...